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codeandcodes
Creator of biglawrefuge. A software engineer-turned lawyer-turned software engineer. My life in a nutshell: I started off my career as a software engineer working on large enterprise software applications, decided I could do more, went to law school, did a year-long stint in biglaw, wondered what I was suffering for, then came back to software. Email me @ codeandcodes@gmail.com
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| Username | codeandcodes |
| School | Stanford Law School |
| Company | N/A |
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Sunday, Jul 19, 2015
Last Active: Tuesday, Aug 16, 2016 |
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Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP,
O'Melveny & Myers LLP,
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati,
Perkins Coie LLP,
Latham & Watkins LLP,
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP
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Ropes & Gray LLP (Summer 2l) Palo Alto - CA - UScodeandcodes (Stanford Law School) Phone call offer.
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Hogan Lovells (Summer 2l) Washington D.C. - UScodeandcodes (Stanford Law School) I think I would have ultimately ended up with an offer here, but my flight was about to leave and I didn't want to miss it, so I came across as disinterested.
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I know there are a lot of disbelievers out there. I was among them (before I got into it). The first truth is that in corporate law your experience may differ greatly based on the law firm, lifecycle of the deal, client. Really there are a lot of factors that go into the calculus. The second truth is that for most people, the biglaw experience is worse than one expects. There's a reason why burnout and attrition are so high, why you hear about biglaw lawyers leaving the law, or lawyers leaving for any other gig that pays half of what they make. If they weren't desperate to get out, they wouldn't leave. Additionally, I would say my friends at other non-NYC law firms probably worked on the order of 60 hours a week, with less weekend work. Their workloads sounded trivial to me coming from a v5 firm (and I was jealous of them), although compared with a normal job, they aren't.
- codeandcodes